Clash Royale Update: November Balance Change (11/30/2016)

So finally Supercell has announced the upcoming Clash Royale Balance Change Update on November 30th 2016. In this update, Supercell is toning down Mega Minion (as we predicted before) and making the Elixir Collector great again.

Clash Royale Balance Change Update

Clash Royale November Balance Change Update

Below is Ash’s opinions on the new Clash Royale update (balance changes).

Mega Minion: Hit Speed decreased from 1.3s to 1.4s; Damage decreased by 6%.

This is no surprise. Mega Minion is too valuable for only 3 Elixir and can beat all other 3 Elixir and 4 Elixir unit (except Tesla) one on one. In total, this is about 15% DPS nerf. Unfortunately, even with this nerf, the Mega Minion is still going to be a beast. The Mega Minion will continue to beat threats such as Musketeer, Baby Dragon, and Wizard one on one. And in my opinion, it’s really not too significant.

The Mega Minion was used by over 84% of the Top 100 players in the Global Leaderboards for the last 3 weeks. This nerf may reduce the usage down to around 75% I would. The 2nd most used card is The Log, which is used around 65%, so yea, I really don’t see another card surpassing Mega Minion, unless the Mega Minion gets a bigger nerf than this.

Elixir Collector: Lifetime decreased from 80s to 70s; Production Speed increased from 9.8s to 8.5s.

I feel like this is a huge buff and feel like it’s unneeded. It’s only been a few weeks since Elixir Collector was changed.

The Elixir Collector wasn’t dead, it was still a fine high risk high reward card and also worked perfectly fine in 3 Musketeer decks too. But now with this significant buff, the Collector will now produce Elixir faster, making it super super deadly during double Elixir time.

Beatdown decks will be stronger than ever during double elixir. It will still remain risky, but the reward is now really high. You get a 3 Elixir profit in 70 seconds, that’s a crazy return value in my opinion.

I feel like Supercell just rushed this card, thinking it was dead. The Elixir Collector metagame was one of the worst metas in the game, where in its prime, it was in about 90% of top players’ decks. I would hate to see that happening again.

Poison’s damage increased by 10%

Many people believe that this is a significant buff, but in my opinion, it’s not really not significant and Poison will still be very underused.

Poison’s main attribute used to be its slow down effect. A 10% buff means Poison will do 60 damage per second instead of 55 for 10 seconds at Level 4. And in total, it will do 50 more damage to troops and building, and 25 more damage to Crown towers. Which is insignificant in my opinion. It’s not going to kill Skeletons from a Graveyard, in fact, it’s going to be the same thing beause Level 9 Skeletons have 67 HP and Level 4 Poison will now do 60 damage per second, so it will still take 2 seconds to kill Skeletons.

So yea, I don’t think a 10% damage increase is going to Poison a better option than Fireball or Lightning in most decks.

Tombstone spawn speed decreased from 2.5s to 2.9s

2.9 seconds from 2.5 seconds. This is also not much nerf.

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The biggest difference will be that you’ll have to time place down your Tombstone safer to block a Furnace. You’ll have to wait for the first round of Fire Spirits to dissipate before playing down your Tombstone. While the Tombstone will spawn 2 less Skeletons over its 40 second life time, not really that big of a deal.

The Tombstone will still remain as the best defensive building, and I’m very confident in saying that.

Lava Pup HP decreased by 1%

This change only affects like 0.000001% of the players, and I’m one of those players who’s affected pretty badly like this.

This is simply so that a Level 12 player’s Arena Tower can 2 shot Level 4 Lava Pups, instead of 3 shot. I don’t like it because my highest level Legendary is my Level 4 Lava Hound, and it’s the card that I use to mainly trophy push with because of that. Not only that that, Level 4 Lava Pups already get 1 shotted by Level 13 Zap Spell. This is a big blow for me.

Ash explaining the new balance changes in this video:


Clash Royale November Balance Change – A Closer Look Into The New Poison Buff

Shared by Galbers Gaming

Supercell back in October removed the slow effect (movement speed and attack speed) from Poison which completely annihilated it, but they felt it was needed to rid Clash Royale of Goison and they didn’t want to risk not going far enough to remove the combination from the game. Well they succeeded, there is more variance in the arena but in it’s place Lightning now stands just about supreme and is used in two very strong decks at the moment: the Giant with Bowler and the Lava Hound. Supercell is apparently looking at Lightning so maybe come end of December we will see a buff to Elite Barbarians and a slight nerf to Lightning but anyway I digress let’s get back on topic, POISON!

Poison has been completely unused since that nerf, in fact the only time I saw it was in the entertaining Double Elixir Challenge where I lost to a very good (annoying) spawner deck on my 12th win attempt, yes I’m still a little bitter! So it was inevitable that it would get a buff at some point especially when a fireball does more damage and instantaneously. So this 10% damage increase is certainly a good start at bringing the Poison spell back into the arena from the Graveyard :), and right now there are decks out there where I can see this spell really working and in some instances even being as strong as Poison was back before it was nerfed! Big shout I know and it is to do with the Ice Golem with Poison interaction against the Barbarians, this is something which no one has seemed to pick up on yet but before I talk about that here is some background:

Past

Before the Poison destruction back in October, it slowed units speed and attack speed as well as did damage over time. At that time Hog Rider Poison was a thing, obviously it was not as prolific as Goison but it was there.

Current Decks that will be affected by an increase in Poison popularity:

  • The Ice Golem Hog Rider cycle deck is one of the stronger decks at the moment, one card which shuts this down relatively well is the Barbarians – Poison used to be used in conjunction with Hog Rider to combat Barbarians.
  • There are also some tricksy Graveyard decks doing the rounds – Poison will shut these decks down.
  • There will also be more Elixir Collectors post Wednesday’s update, although the Elixir Collector will still be a risky card to play especially in the current Lightning Meta – Elixir collector has always been an attractive Poison target even now pre-Poison buff.
  • The Clone Spell will be released in just over a week’s time, upon release there will be more Zap Bait decks where Poison will be helpful as well as be a slightly expensive option of destroying the cloned units themselves, four elixir Poison to the three elixir Clone.

With all of this in mind, Poison is looking more attractive especially post the ten per cent damage buff.

Post Poison buff – 10% damage increase

  • In an Ice Golem Hog Rider cycle deck (one of the stronger decks currently) the inclusion of the buffed Poison with the Ice Golem’s death damage will be able to kill Barbarians (this is also currently the case with the Fireball & Ice Golem’s death combination), but wait that’s not all. On the Ice Golem’s death a slow will activate, making this already potent combination even stronger and very similar to the Poison back before it was nerfed! My video below explores this as well as the post Poison buff: Ice Golem, Hog Rider and Poison deck.
  • Poison will also now be able to kill the Wizard and Musketeer should you be able to keep them in the poison long enough…
  • Poison Freeze was also a thing for the level 12s and 13s so maybe that too will make a comeback.

This all looks very good on paper but we will just have to see how it works in practice. I’m pretty sure it will work in some decks but if doesn’t work you didn’t hear it from me… if it does work, you heard it from Galbers Gaming first 😉

Anyway, please let me know if you:

  • Agree/disagree with me
  • Know of any other little “niches” that will arise from the ten per cent Poison damage increase
  • Have any decks in mind where Poison would fit it
  • And most importantly of all, do you think Goison or some sort of Tank Poison will come back to the Clash Royale arena?!

Thanks for reading, if you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask and please don’t forget to subscribe to Galbers Gaming’s channel for more strategy and tips.

What do you think about these changes guys? Please share your opinions!

  • Aidan McFarland

    NOOO MEGA MINION (actually I’m fine with it because mine was low level, so I couldn’t really use it)! (First comment!)

    • MLGMLGMLG

      first comment to the first comment (also first to start the chain again)

      • TheRSVA7

        First comment to the first comment to the first comment

        • Inferno HD

          Wtf?

    • Will Potter

      Luckily the Mega Minion is still very okay after the nerf!

  • Anirudh Neti

    First

    • Anirudh Neti

      Im sad the tombstone is getting nerfed, almost all my decks revolved around this card 🙁

      • TheRSVA7

        Same

    • Zigge

      You were NOT first…

  • Will Potter

    Me after reading the Mega Minion nerf: https://media.giphy.com/media/KDRv3QggAjyo/giphy.gif

    • Will Potter

      Me after reading Elixir Collector change: https://media.giphy.com/media/xS2v1vFvOHnoI/giphy.gif

      • DaSlime

        ooooooohhhhhh

        • DavidThePro21

          agreed

      • -anime4theiwn-

        d: i still used the elxir collector in my golem deck (got me from 3200 to 3600 and usually im hovering at 3500-3550) (ill mention that im not really pushing im jsut doing my dailey 10 crowns) and this is definatly a great change for me sadly i also use mega minion 🙁

      • LIN/(88

        tasty

    • Zigge

      Well I’m so tired of Mega Minions sooo….. hell yeah!!!

      • Will Potter

        Hey Zigge, kindly check your email please 😀

        • Zigge

          Why?

          • Lightning King

            You have inherited a wealthy 10 gems as courtesy of clashroyalearena.com

          • Zigge

            I’ve already checked it. What you mean with ”wealthy 10 gems”?

          • Lightning King

            I’m so sorry sire. I forget that you are rich as you are most humble. I will request my lord to provide you with 100 gold in addition.

          • Zigge

            What are you even talking about? Wtf?

          • Lightning King

            Yes sire, you shall have the gems delivered to your house by….. wtf (Wednesday,Thursday,or Friday) Please accept my humble,sincere apologies due to my insolence for not telling you sooner.

          • Zigge

            Wait dude, are you just trolling me?

          • Lightning King

            No sir, I can see as to why you would think that, but actually, I am rather a half – breed troll, cousin to Sir Shrek.

          • Zigge

            And I’m the Lumberjack! Cousin to the Royal Giant. But my beard looks better, don’t you think?

    • DaSlime

      holy balls really?

    • Dingy

      I know the feel, just wish it was a small damage nerf and HP nerf.

    • Gamewarrior

      some spam right here in the Mortar Tesla Siege Cycle Deck for Arena 8 and 9

    • Dreadlord

      lol

    • H2 Rothmann

      lol

    • DaSlime

      wow

    • Storm_Gaming

      I totally agree will. mega minion is definitely one of my favorite cards and is a big part of my deck 🙁

    • Subtornado007

      Wow that’s hilarious,hehe that’s me too.I predicted that they would nerf it soon.Also why does SUPERCELL tell us in advance,they never actually change it.

    • Ryan Wong

      the mega minion will still be a great card on defense, because it still survives the Fireball

      • DavidThePro21

        true.

    • Ben

      meta minion shall be buried in the tombstone rip both (that was random)

    • Angel Limones Quirino

      x2

    • Lightning King
      • Inferno HD

        Me Too

    • Sun Lee

      I know a lot of players will be sad over the meta minion nerf, but I’m personally happy with it first because i never used the card but second i was forced to play a musketeer in my deck after all my pushes got stomped with a single 3 elixir card

    • Arnab Gharay

      I just upgrade it to tournament lvl ,why supercell ?

  • Time2Mine 2.0

    dosent change much. although i use the poison so thats good

    • Anthony Peterson

      Doesnt change much huh?

      Watch you not use MM anymore

      • Time2Mine 2.0

        ??wot u mean??

      • Time2Mine 2.0

        im in arena 6. no mm

    • Will Potter

      Nice. Can you share a Poison deck buddy?

  • Anthony Peterson

    That Mega Minion change ruins me…

    My soul will forever be damaged

    • Adarsharun Umarani

      no one really cares if they are like me

      • Adarsharun Umarani

        im arena 6

        • Dingy

          Every better player cares.

    • Will Potter

      LOL how is your soul now?

  • Miguel Azuaga

    where’s the baby dragon buff????

    • Will Potter

      Baby Dragon will not get any buff until Golem decks get nerf. I believe this.

      • H2 Rothmann

        you are right
        when game was first released globally golem baby d was the most popular deck

        • Inferno HD

          Lol that’s my deck

  • SivHawk Gaming

    RIP meta minion

    • Will Potter

      He is still okay hehe

  • Francuac

    Hey! Stop complaining about the mega minion nerf and try finding a good replace for it. Guard, minions or knight would be a good replace i think

    • Zigge

      Nope. Musketeer or Minions is probably the best.

    • FredDenny

      its not even that bad of a nerf >-> only .1 second less and it will still do 206 dmg at tournament standard as opposed to its current 219

    • Will Potter

      I am still using Mega Minion

  • Zigge

    I like these… But where’s the Skeletons buff, the The Log nerf, the Elite Barbarians buff, the Mirror buff, the Sparky buff, the Giant Skeleton buff, the Witch buff, the Balloon buff, the Barbarians nerf, the Telsa buff, the Bomb Tower buff, the Cannon buff, the Dark Prince buff, the Arrows buff, the Bomber buff, the Tornado buff, the Rage Spell buff… I could keep going but we would be here all day….

    • Mega Yo

      Why does Sparky need a nerf?

      • BossKillCody

        overpowered aoe

        • FredDenny

          sparky is trash lmao, he needs a buff

      • Dingy

        He said Sparky buff.

        • Mega Yo

          I meant, why does she need a buff?

          • Dingy

            There is so many counters, there even introducing the Zap Wizard, an Ice Golem can stall for 6 seconds. Usually by that time it would be dead. Zap + Mini P.E.K.K.A kills it. When the Sparky is sent solo which sometimes people do skeletons will kill it. There is just so many counters to it. Giant Sparky Wizard? Lightning, then some random troop to kill the Sparky.

      • Zigge

        Sparky buff

    • Firegod

      Why does log need a nerf?

      • SivHawk Gaming

        Have you seen the meta?

      • Zigge

        Beacuse it’s op

    • Gamewarrior

      wow, but elite barbs just came out, so if its going to get a buff, it will be a while till it gets it.

      • fatbu

        well the royal giant was buffed a few times right after it came out

    • Dingy

      Why do we need a arrows buff?

      • Zigge

        Beacuse arrows sukk

    • H2 Rothmann

      arrows dont need a buff

  • BossKillCody

    Mega Minion will still be a great card, why is everyone so down about this nerf? I typically use mega minion for defense, and if he gets lucky he might get a hit out on the opposing tower. Also @windmm:disqus i have a deck that id like to submit to you.

    • FredDenny

      exactly, only .1 second less and it will still do 206 dmg at tournament standard as opposed to its current 219

      • Lightning King

        only a 15% dps nerf. I’m not complaining. #ChangeTheMeta

      • Firebreeze13

        and to think that change just lost me my game. it was overtime and mm attacked the tower it had 6 hp left after he did. My opponent finished mm off and fireballed my tower and i lost. if it wernt for that nurf i would have won. THIS IS YOUR FAULT SUPERCELL

  • Dingy

    So now what’s the best replacement for Mega Minion? It’s going to end up like poison then get buffed.

    • fatbu

      minions? musketeer?

    • kwugfighter

      Continue using Mega Minion, but in-game support it with an extra cheap troop on defense to make up for the minuscule damage nerf

  • Dingy

    Rest in Peace
    Mega Minion September 8th – November 30th
    We will always remember your good defense, unfireball-able armor
    and cheap cost

    Anyway the poison got revived and the tombstone isn’t completely taking over the
    building meta.

    • kwugfighter

      Look, the blow on the Mega Minion isn’t that big. The Giant got a 6% HP nerf and a 6% damage nerf and it’s still in the meta. The MM would probably still in the meta.

    • Lightning King

      poison still isn’t good. I would rather they take away halfg it’s damage and give it back it’s slow effect. I don’t know about you, but at 3500 trophies it was used more for the slow rather than damage.

  • SivHawk Gaming

    To make the game more fair, PEKKA needs to move very fast, cost 2 elixir (because we all know 1 is too little and 3 is too much), and be able to target air since she is so tall. This would make the game more balanced and fair in my opinion.

    • Darth Cha-Cha

      agreed

      • Mrsnapjaws

        you forgot, 300% buff on attack speed

    • PoisonKnight

      what is this? pekka 2 elixir?!?

    • MLGMLGMLG

      lol

    • AfricanAfrikaner

      Let’s just make it flying as well. While you’re at it. And put a Royal Giant cannon on it’s back. And make its mouth go inferno while you’re at it.

      The Pekka has the HP of a tower. It won’t EVER cost less than at least 4. And 4 hits from a Pekka takes down a tower. Don’t be an idiot.

      • Lightning King

        Stupid, it has wayy more health…. unless you are talking about a crown tower…. Also, it needs to have splash and a range farther than the princess. 1000000% attack speed and damage buff, it won’t do much except give it a minor dps buff. and since we are supercell, lets make the card slightly overpowered by adding about 123456789987654321 health.

        • Firebreeze13

          YES LETS DO IT FOR APRIL FOOLS 2017 XP

      • SivHawk Gaming

        Take a joke, geez

      • Firebreeze13

        make it target buildings 2

  • Darth Cha-Cha

    Good. Now nerf miner and log please!

    • Lightning King

      miner can be easily countered by so many troops…

      • Firebreeze13

        Players ask for log to be nurfed now. XP. its fine the way it is. its a great cheep card and i feel its officially legendary.

  • Blaxeturner

    Excited to hear the Sparky and Inferno Dragon Rework… also hoping it is a rework and not a buff.

  • aaroneyon

    Hi Clash Community, this update really affected my deck 🙁 need help improving though. I’m level 9 with 9/7/3 on 3000 trophies, don’t know if I’m just low leveled that’s why I’m losing at legendary arena and I always have level 10 enemies. Here’s my deck:

    Lava Hound (lvl1)
    Graveyard (lvl1)
    Mega Minion (lvl7)
    Tombstone (lvl7)
    Lightning (lvl3)
    Arrow (lvl9)
    Skel Army (lvl3)
    Minion (lvl9)

    I tried swapping Archers(lvl9) to skel army or minion as if I drop skelarmy and minion at the same time they all die from zap so it is a really hight elixir loss. The two legendary cards are my only legendary, what do you think should I swap out playing on legendary arena. Thanks

    • Ben

      since you are low lvl, tournaments would be helpful and would be more fun – lava hound and graveyard are very superior in tournaments, maybe ash’s hog graveyard could work wonders for you, and then the tournaments chests are a gr8 way to level up

    • AfricanAfrikaner

      You are a low level player in the legendary arena. This puts you where you should be. If you only verse level 10 players, it should be obvious that you can’t push trophies much higher. The only level 9’s I find in the legendary arena are hound players like you. Seems you need to just level your towers and cards and keep practicing with your deck. Other additions you might want to try are the mini dragon and inferno dragon. Keep the tombstone and try zap iso arrows. Lightning might also be too expensive. Your average elixir could be lower to allow for faster cycles. Most important thing about the hound is not to leave it alone if the opponent lane rushes the other lane. ALWAYS back it up with your mega, minions or dragons. Should you have the miner, it could also be great to send it in with the hound pups, graveyard, minions or skele army. Gives you multiple options to attack with. Good luck.

    • kwugfighter

      I would say that you can get up to almost 4K (my friend got up to 3900+ with those lvls as a lv9) but probably not any higher because the Skarmy, Arrows, and the Graveyard would start to be a problem for you because they are underleveled. Maybe swap them out for cards that wouldn’t be affected by levels.

    • MaybeDylan

      Wow this is almost the exact deck i have…. i wont use lightning and graveyard so ill take out lightning if i were you, use minion horde instead of skarmy and you’ll need a tank like knight to tank for the lavapups/minions

  • LH dude

    Does anyone know exactly what the Lava Pups nerf does?

    • AfricanAfrikaner

      This is simply so that a Level 12 player’s Arena Tower can 2 shot Level 4 Lava Pups, instead of 3 shot.

      • LH dude

        Thanks mate!

  • DavidThePro21

    Someone told me the Barbarians only changed once…

  • Haha Me

    Will poison be able to completely Kill the musketeer or the wizard?
    Lightning needs a nerf, freeze needs to last a bit longer and tornado should do 2.5% more damage.

  • kwugfighter

    I know that the MM nerf was predicted, but still I’m sad that it’s going to be nerfed because it’s one of the main damage dealers in my deck 🙁

  • Clash_Guitarist

    poor mega minion.I was just about to use it.

  • Alex Lord

    Wondering whether the potentially low real life impact this has on MM (someone worked out 17 damage below) means focusing on a card upgrade (dps AND health don’t forget) will negate the nerf.

    Only thing is I’d be gutted if spent gold and time upgrading only for a second nerf to come…

  • fatbu

    Well I guess we all knew the MM was gonna be nerfed anyways.

  • D-Mate19

    There are two kinds of people here: those who used it and are sad, and those who didn’t and are overjoyed.

    • Lightning King

      I am overjoyed

  • D-Mate19

    Is it not a 2 elixir profit in 70 seconds? And your ash video is of mass princesess

    • Lightning King

      it is both, he talks about the update changes while the players get 5o princesses in the background.

  • Zachary Friend

    I can’t wait for these balances excited for a few because I don’t use some of these cards anymore but I just got a legendary can’t wait to see what it is. SOOO EXCITED!

  • 2307

    i am a lvl 8 and in arena 6 .please could anybody tell me a good deck to reach arena 7

    • Jorge Sanchez

      i use knight, spear goblins, minions, skeleton army, zap, hog rider, fireball and mega minion(use archers until you get mega minion). it works against most decks since its a cheap deck 3.0 elixir cost. my highest trophy is 2522 i am lvl8 with 8common/6rare/3epic/0legendary my only lvl9 common is zap.

  • Aidan McFarland

    Poison buff is AWESOME, it can take out at level 4 level 7 3 muskies!

    • Lightning King

      but will the muskies stay in poison that long….. Most of the time ***NO***

      • Lightning King

        oh srry lol i was trying to use the asteriks like reddit posts.

  • 2307

    i am in arena 6 and a lvl 8 .i need a good deck to reach arena 7. i have all the cards till arena 6 except
    legendaries

    • Jorge Sanchez

      i use knight, spear goblins, minions, skeleton army, zap, hog rider, fireball and mega minion(use archers until you get mega minion). it works against most decks since its a cheap deck 3.0 elixir cost.

  • TheAsianKid

    Is it just me or is anyone else getting burned out from playing Clash Royale, it’s a fun game and all but it’s not that fun anymore. (I’m at 4000 trophies)

    • D-Mate19

      Same but that probably from the lack of new content. We really have a few horrible cards in the last 4 months and a challenge or two.

  • bud is wizer
  • PoisonKnight

    so is trifecta back ;0

    • Dennis Tsui

      Yessss. my bae deck that got me to legendary arenaaaa

  • Mujtaba Omar

    Poison actually causes problems against some cards like 3 musketeers,or if something is deployed behind a giant right at the bridge, but fireball does instant damage.Poison is good against graveyard spell,skarmy,minion horde or fragile but mass troops like that.

  • DiagnostaMoto
    • Will Potter

      xD

  • Nubbins

    i literally dropped form legendary to 2500 below because level 10 zap can now kill my level 2 lava pups